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SAAB 9-3

2nd gen Convertible (YS3F), 2004–2007

License plate of the United Kingdom, 2001 year system

2007 Saab 9-3 Vector 1.8t (MT)

M6 @ J21A, Warrington, England
#colourfulcars #electricblue

29/08/2022

This ones a weird one, maybe Jacko can help, its a 2007 meaning it should be a pre-facelift but it has facelift rear lights and I didn't see the front of it so I couldn't tell if it had been fitted with later tailights. It was also only registered in 2010 either meaning that its and import from a RHD market like Ireland or Japan or that it was just left on the dealer lot and eventually bought in 2010. It also states Saab Not Available when the plate is checked?

cabriolet

Comments (17)

Matfiejplates 2022-08-30 12:13:04 | #1

Judging by the door handles and the location of the rear reflectors, I'd suggest that this is a pre-facelift model, although I'm unable to help regarding the import  :thumbs up:

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Thom1995075 2022-08-30 13:12:02 | #2

Looks like a prefacelift, with facelift lights. Not that uncommon i think? Agreed with Matfiej on the reflectors placement, aswell as the bar in the middle with the SAAB logo; on the facelift this is chrome, not car-colored.

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Jacko 2022-08-30 17:51:57 | #3

It is a pre-facelift model, with facelift taillights, a somewhat popular modification on older 9-3 models. It's one of the many Cabriolet Saab models produced in Austria, with this one being made in very late 2006, and registered in 2007 thereafter. Upon retrieving the VIN, this is the information that comes back to the car
Here and Here

Also, the facelift 9-3 Cabriolet kept the pre-facelift door handles, as well as the door protection trim found on the pre-facelift, probably as a 'GM' cost-cutting measure. Fun fact: The door handles on the facelift 9-3 Saloon/SportWagon are just from the GM parts bin, also fitted on the Opel/Vauxhall Vectra.

I have no idea where this car may've been imported from though. SAAB 9-3's never really changed in specification in the different markets they were sold in. For example, Japanese-spec examples are literally the same as Irish-spec, just with an added plate bracket for Japanese plates.

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Matfiejplates 2022-08-30 18:28:49 | #4

Jacko (2022-08-30 17:51:57)

Jacko
It is a pre-facelift model, with facelift taillights, a somewhat popular modification on older 9-3 models. It's one of the many Cabriolet Saab models produced in Austria, with this one being made in very late 2006, and registered in 2007 thereafter. Upon retrieving the VIN, this is the information that comes back to the car
Here and Here

Also, the facelift 9-3 Cabriolet kept the pre-facelift door handles, as well as the door protection trim found on the pre-facelift, probably as a 'GM' cost-cutting measure. Fun fact: The door handles on the facelift 9-3 Saloon/SportWagon are just from the GM parts bin, also fitted on the Opel/Vauxhall Vectra.

I have no idea where this car may've been imported from though. SAAB 9-3's never really changed in specification in the different markets they were sold in. For example, Japanese-spec examples are literally the same as Irish-spec, just with an added plate bracket for Japanese plates.


Ahh wow! I never noticed that the facelifted cabrio kept the old door handles, or at least, maybe I once did and it just didn't sink in...  :D

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HJBold 2022-08-30 20:59:08 | #5

Jacko (2022-08-30 17:51:57)

Jacko
It is a pre-facelift model, with facelift taillights, a somewhat popular modification on older 9-3 models. It's one of the many Cabriolet Saab models produced in Austria, with this one being made in very late 2006, and registered in 2007 thereafter. Upon retrieving the VIN, this is the information that comes back to the car
Here and Here

Also, the facelift 9-3 Cabriolet kept the pre-facelift door handles, as well as the door protection trim found on the pre-facelift, probably as a 'GM' cost-cutting measure. Fun fact: The door handles on the facelift 9-3 Saloon/SportWagon are just from the GM parts bin, also fitted on the Opel/Vauxhall Vectra.

I have no idea where this car may've been imported from though. SAAB 9-3's never really changed in specification in the different markets they were sold in. For example, Japanese-spec examples are literally the same as Irish-spec, just with an added plate bracket for Japanese plates.


Thanks for all the help everyone, I'll keep them minor changes to the rear reflectors in mind in case a similar situation happens again. Jacko, I also used those exact Saab VIN Decoder websites to check whether this Saab was produced outside of Europe or whether it gave destination information on where the car was sold. It could just be an Irish import for all we know  :rofl:  :thumbs up:

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mbenz222 2023-08-20 07:06:01 | #6

HJBold (2022-08-30 20:59:08)

HJBold
Jacko
It is a pre-facelift model, with facelift taillights, a somewhat popular modification on older 9-3 models. It's one of the many Cabriolet Saab models produced in Austria, with this one being made in very late 2006, and registered in 2007 thereafter. Upon retrieving the VIN, this is the information that comes back to the car
Here and Here

Also, the facelift 9-3 Cabriolet kept the pre-facelift door handles, as well as the door protection trim found on the pre-facelift, probably as a 'GM' cost-cutting measure. Fun fact: The door handles on the facelift 9-3 Saloon/SportWagon are just from the GM parts bin, also fitted on the Opel/Vauxhall Vectra.

I have no idea where this car may've been imported from though. SAAB 9-3's never really changed in specification in the different markets they were sold in. For example, Japanese-spec examples are literally the same as Irish-spec, just with an added plate bracket for Japanese plates.

Thanks for all the help everyone, I'll keep them minor changes to the rear reflectors in mind in case a similar situation happens again. Jacko, I also used those exact Saab VIN Decoder websites to check whether this Saab was produced outside of Europe or whether it gave destination information on where the car was sold. It could just be an Irish import for all we know


My money is on Ireland, most imported cars in the UK come from there

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Junglecarz 2023-08-20 11:57:29 | #7

mbenz222 (2023-08-20 07:06:01)

mbenz222
HJBold
Jacko
It is a pre-facelift model, with facelift taillights, a somewhat popular modification on older 9-3 models. It's one of the many Cabriolet Saab models produced in Austria, with this one being made in very late 2006, and registered in 2007 thereafter. Upon retrieving the VIN, this is the information that comes back to the car
Here and Here

Also, the facelift 9-3 Cabriolet kept the pre-facelift door handles, as well as the door protection trim found on the pre-facelift, probably as a 'GM' cost-cutting measure. Fun fact: The door handles on the facelift 9-3 Saloon/SportWagon are just from the GM parts bin, also fitted on the Opel/Vauxhall Vectra.

I have no idea where this car may've been imported from though. SAAB 9-3's never really changed in specification in the different markets they were sold in. For example, Japanese-spec examples are literally the same as Irish-spec, just with an added plate bracket for Japanese plates.

Thanks for all the help everyone, I'll keep them minor changes to the rear reflectors in mind in case a similar situation happens again. Jacko, I also used those exact Saab VIN Decoder websites to check whether this Saab was produced outside of Europe or whether it gave destination information on where the car was sold. It could just be an Irish import for all we know

My money is on Ireland, most imported cars in the UK come from there

No they don't. Japan is way more popular than Ireland, possibly even America too.

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mbenz222 2023-08-23 06:22:33 | #8

Junglecarz (2023-08-20 11:57:29)

Junglecarz
mbenz222
HJBold
Jacko
It is a pre-facelift model, with facelift taillights, a somewhat popular modification on older 9-3 models. It's one of the many Cabriolet Saab models produced in Austria, with this one being made in very late 2006, and registered in 2007 thereafter. Upon retrieving the VIN, this is the information that comes back to the car
Here and Here

Also, the facelift 9-3 Cabriolet kept the pre-facelift door handles, as well as the door protection trim found on the pre-facelift, probably as a 'GM' cost-cutting measure. Fun fact: The door handles on the facelift 9-3 Saloon/SportWagon are just from the GM parts bin, also fitted on the Opel/Vauxhall Vectra.

I have no idea where this car may've been imported from though. SAAB 9-3's never really changed in specification in the different markets they were sold in. For example, Japanese-spec examples are literally the same as Irish-spec, just with an added plate bracket for Japanese plates.

Thanks for all the help everyone, I'll keep them minor changes to the rear reflectors in mind in case a similar situation happens again. Jacko, I also used those exact Saab VIN Decoder websites to check whether this Saab was produced outside of Europe or whether it gave destination information on where the car was sold. It could just be an Irish import for all we know

My money is on Ireland, most imported cars in the UK come from there

No they don't. Japan is way more popular than Ireland, possibly even America too.


Aside from Japan, possibly Ireland for RHD

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mbenz222 2023-11-24 11:11:56 | #9

VIN: YS3FF75F176101675
Model: 2007 9-3 (9440) Convertible
Color: 305 - Electric Blue (metallic)
Interior: L20 - Parchment sport leather in parchment cabin & parchment leather look door insertsObsidian black sport leather in black cabin & black leather look door inserts
Engine: B207E 4-inline, Turbo
Gearbox: 5-speed manual / Front wheel drive
Market: Great Britain
Steering: Right-hand steering
Exterior: Roof, standard
Doors: 2 side doors

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HJBold 2023-11-24 19:53:18 | #10

mbenz222 (2023-11-24 11:11:56)

mbenz222
VIN: YS3FF75F176101675
Model: 2007 9-3 (9440) Convertible
Color: 305 - Electric Blue (metallic)
Interior: L20 - Parchment sport leather in parchment cabin & parchment leather look door insertsObsidian black sport leather in black cabin & black leather look door inserts
Engine: B207E 4-inline, Turbo
Gearbox: 5-speed manual / Front wheel drive
Market: Great Britain
Steering: Right-hand steering
Exterior: Roof, standard
Doors: 2 side doors


Thank you! What VIN decoder did you use for that?

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Jacko 2023-11-24 21:26:41 | #11

I found records from the VIN given with this car on carvx.jp, so I'm 99% sure it's a Japanese import. However, since Saabs were exactly the same for the Japanese market as European models, I wouldn't necessarily say this is Japanese-spec, only that it was potentially sold new in Japan before being exported to the UK.

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mbenz222 2023-11-24 22:34:35 | #12

HJBold (2023-11-24 19:53:18)

HJBold
mbenz222
VIN: YS3FF75F176101675
Model: 2007 9-3 (9440) Convertible
Color: 305 - Electric Blue (metallic)
Interior: L20 - Parchment sport leather in parchment cabin & parchment leather look door insertsObsidian black sport leather in black cabin & black leather look door inserts
Engine: B207E 4-inline, Turbo
Gearbox: 5-speed manual / Front wheel drive
Market: Great Britain
Steering: Right-hand steering
Exterior: Roof, standard
Doors: 2 side doors

Thank you! What VIN decoder did you use for that?


mysaab.info

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mbenz222 2023-11-24 22:35:25 | #13

Jacko (2023-11-24 21:26:41)

Jacko
I found records from the VIN given with this car on carvx.jp, so I'm 99% sure it's a Japanese import. However, since Saabs were exactly the same for the Japanese market as European models, I wouldn't necessarily say this is Japanese-spec, only that it was potentially sold new in Japan before being exported to the UK.


Maybe it was an unsold Japanese-spec car that they sold in the UK? I know MG did this with MGFs and Rover with Minis.

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mbenz222 2023-11-24 22:35:51 | #14

Jacko (2023-11-24 21:26:41)

Could possibly an unsold UK car that they sold off to Japan and later returned

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mbenz222 2023-11-24 22:40:29 | #15

Jacko (2023-11-24 21:26:41)

Jacko
I found records from the VIN given with this car on carvx.jp, so I'm 99% sure it's a Japanese import. However, since Saabs were exactly the same for the Japanese market as European models, I wouldn't necessarily say this is Japanese-spec, only that it was potentially sold new in Japan before being exported to the UK.


Actually, I wouldn't trust carvx.jp too much. Out of curiosity I put a UK Mercedes VIN into the VIN box and it popped up. That car had never spent time in Japan yet it still was listed. Especially since mysaab.info gives this car's market as the UK

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Jacko 2023-12-26 15:36:42 | #16

mbenz222 (2023-11-24 22:35:51)

mbenz222
Could possibly an unsold UK car that they sold off to Japan and later returned


Could also be more likely that this car was registered as a British Forces Germany car (where DVLA withold details about the car, despite them wearing standard UK plates), or possibly an ex-Diplomatic car too. The likelihood of it having a Japanese past is starting to dwindle.

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mbenz222 2024-01-27 11:44:33 | #17

Jacko (2023-12-26 15:36:42)

Jacko
mbenz222
Could possibly an unsold UK car that they sold off to Japan and later returned

Could also be more likely that this car was registered as a British Forces Germany car (where DVLA withold details about the car, despite them wearing standard UK plates), or possibly an ex-Diplomatic car too. The likelihood of it having a Japanese past is starting to dwindle.


Both plausible options, this car likely never spent time in Japan

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