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Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse

1st gen Sedan (W111/W112), 1959–1971

German license plate, Regular plates

Kaunas, Lithuania, USSR
From my friend's family photo album. His grandfather served in the Western Group of Forces, so his son (my friend's father) spent his childhood in Germany, Lithuania and Latvia. This Mercedes attracted his attention so he took this picture.

oldtimer archive photo

Comments (10)

ZGW 2020-08-22 10:17:53 | #1

Anybody know the system/history of issuing plates in West Berlin? I think they started from series B-A 1 to B-Z 999 in 1957 (re-issuing from 70's for US size plates) and the next series was:
B-AA 1 - B-ZZ 999 (50's/60's, re-issuing from late 70's)
B-A 1000 - B-Z 9999 (60's- early 80's)
B-AA 1000 - B-E* 9999 (mid 70's - 1990)

Please correct me if you know more.

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Нец 2020-08-24 13:57:27 | #2

ZGW (2020-08-22 10:17:53)

ZGW
B-AA 1000 - B-E* 9999 (mid 70's - 1990)

How could B-VV appear then?

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ZGW 2020-08-25 17:17:41 | #3

According to my hypothesis from above B-VV 473 could be issued in late 50's/early 60's or after mid-70's.
From late 80's or early 90's there is full freedom to choice number in Germany, but i'm interested in West Berlin era (1957-1990).

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Нец 2020-08-26 12:22:14 | #4

ZGW (2020-08-25 17:17:41)

ZGW
According to my hypothesis from above B-VV 473 could be issued in late 50's/early 60's or after mid-70's.

Oh, sorry, that's okay according to the system you describe, I haven't mentioned the first row (B-AA 1 - B-ZZ 999). Thank you for the information! I am also interested in the German plates. Maybe you know how it works now, if I don't choose the letter combination by myself? Is there any system in letter assignment? For example, today there is B-RC **** current combination to be assigned. Or it is absolutely random now?

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ZGW 2020-08-28 15:40:55 | #5

I don't know how the system works now, maybe someone from Germany will help?
I know that you can choose every number which fits the system and it is not currently in use. I've heard you must pay for it.

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Нец 2020-08-28 21:17:00 | #6

ZGW (2020-08-28 15:40:55)

ZGW
I know that you can choose every number which fits the system and it is not currently in use. I've heard you must pay for it.

Yes, of course, but I mean — which combination will you have if you don't want to choose? Is there some current combination or they are assigned randomly?
Hopefully someone from Germany will notice our conversation  :)

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Niemand 2020-08-31 16:57:14 | #7

ZGW
I know that you can choose every number which fits the system and it is not currently in use. I've heard you must pay for it.


That is correct. The extra fee for a chosen combination amounts to 10,20€.

Нец
Yes, of course, but I mean — which combination will you have if you don't want to choose?


From my expirience you will just get a random combination from a certain letter group that varies between districs.
A few examples from districs near me:
The UH district issued plates with the format "UH-* 111".
The EIC distric issued plates with the format "EIC-Q* 111".
The EA district issued plates with the format "EA-* 111" but switched briefly to the format "EA-* 1111" which was newly introduced by that time.
The numbers and letters on these plates would always be completely random.
Other districs may have different internal regulations for this and there might even be differences between two offices in the same district.
It should be noted that this is just my personal observation from the last five years and might not be necessarily 100% correct.

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Нец 2022-12-05 16:36:20 | #8

ZGW (2020-08-22 10:17:53)

ZGW
B-AA 1000 - B-E* 9999 (mid 70's - 1990)

An interesting plate I've met. It is out of the described system:
https://platesmania.com/de/nomer20477221

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Niemand 2022-12-05 20:35:52 | #9

Нец (2022-12-05 16:36:20)

Нец
ZGW
B-AA 1000 - B-E* 9999 (mid 70's - 1990)

An interesting plate I've met. It is out of the described system:
https://platesmania.com/de/nomer20477221


The possibility to choose a registration number was officially introduced on 6th November 1991. And although the new FE-Plates were already introduced a few years earlier (they were available in three states in 1994, and optional in all states since 1995), the DIN-Plate series did not become fully obsolete until the year 2000. Therefore the plate you saw is not necessarily issued out of order because it could be a chosen registration.

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Нец 2022-12-06 13:29:21 | #10

Niemand (2022-12-05 20:35:52)

Niemand
Therefore the plate you saw is not necessarily issued out of order because it could be a chosen registration.

Yes, this is most likely, though the combination looks absolutely ordinary. Thank you for the details!

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